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Do Forums & Groups Moderators Exasperate People?

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Do Forums & Groups Moderators Exasperate People?

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Do Forum Moderators **** People Off?

Well, this has always made me chuckle and I tell you why.

If we take the word,' moderation', for example, it is formally defined by Cambridge Dictionary as being...
The fact that something becomes less in size, strength, or force.
Now, when this comes to forums, it doesn't really make sense as you should not really be diminishing anything people want to convey. If you don't like what people write? then don't read it!

If you buy a sandwich and it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth...you leave it. :roll:

So really, there is no such thing as forum moderation. What you actually have is censorship.

Someone, somewhere sitting at a computer screen doesn't like what you have written. Heaven forbid, they may have even been offended...imagine that. :D
Now, the most common reason, if you are lucky enough to get one, is an accusation of violating the terms of a particular website. Oh, the irony and hypocrisy are overwhelming at times. The greatest violators of any forum are the so-called moderators themselves as they are beyond reproach because the majority of the website readers and visitors are at their mercy of censorship as that is what it is...and nothing more.

If somebody comes on to a forum and starts acting like a total **** which does happen, whether they be drunk, stupid, mental or just plain bored...then every other reader/visitor has the option to block their posts or even report them to the website admins.

The process of censorship is not moderation. It is controlling peoples posts to suit certain individuals, ideologies and bigots.

If a visitor's posts are that offensive or are effectively criminal? which does happen. I can confirm that from my own experience. I had an idiot making death threats who later went on to get a criminal record. Then just like in public places, they are escorted out and prevented from returning to the situation...however, deleting their posts and censoring their comments is belittling.

How effective can a forum be during such strange times when profit comes before comments?

What is more important?

Keeping paying website advertisers happy?

Or letting people discuss important matters that affect every boater or anybody who gives a flying **** about the Norfolk Broads?

There are a lot of difficult subjects on the Norfolk Broads that people wish to discuss from boating safety issues, pollution, tolls, organisations, residential boaters, riparian law to fly-tipping...the list goes on and on.

What good is a Norfolk Broads forum if people's views are censored and truths get deleted to suit the minority?

This does not now create an opportunity for trolls, or for people to be rude or antagonistic to others online...they already exist.

A forum should be an opportunity to post what is on people's minds regarding boating on the Norfolk Broads. Without the overzealous so-called moderators lurking (often anonymously) in the shadows of cyberspace. Whilst just waiting to delete and reprimand its visitors.

This is not a pop at any other or specific related forum(s), it is my own opinion of so-called forum moderators, who incidentally would censor this post quicker than anyone could read it. :roll:

However, allow me to leave you with one of the urban slang dictionary's definitions of forum moderators and I personally think it has got it right.
Forum moderator power abuse - removing posts that do not violate any of the forum's rules.
I reckon that nails it.

People must realise that when they are told that a forum owner or administrator is doing you all a good deed by allowing you to use the forum for free....that is total rubbish.
It is the other way around.

Posters on forums are doing the website owner a favour, not the other way around.

They are creating content for the website in question.
As a result, the website owner has a blank canvas to either charge companies to advertise or derive revenue from Google adverts.

At the very least any so-called moderator should do is let people speak their minds even more still if it goes against their own beliefs and viewpoint.

That is a forum, the rest are bigoted cash cows.


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forum moderator
A member of a forum that has extra rights and abilities to "keep the peace" and enact the rules set forth by the website admin or owners. Is most oftentimes (98%) a nerd that got his ass beat in high school and feels that, through the only authority he will ever obtain, he must take it out on "normies" and the rest of the world, by enforcing pointless rules. Usually in real life, they don't do well in direct sunlight and can't backup any confidence in real life.

Usually forum moderators that follow the rules strictly or more than a passive/collected moderator are enormously boring in real life, but think they are interesting and liked because of their personalities on the internet world. They don't realize it's the same reason why people try to make "friends" with a police officer.
"I couldn't figure out why I didn't have any cool friends, so I became a forum moderator in order to take my pain out on the world."

It has become fashionable to shut down or curtail any debate by claiming your opponent is "racist" or "fascist", or "right wing", but in reality rather than put forward your views in an appropriate manner, just report your "victim" status to a moderator and get the thread closed or removed.

bit like "taking the ball home,,'cos you're 4.0 down at half time".


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If people don't pay for a product...then they are the product.

I wish people would realise this with Facebook etc and the same is true for forums...even Norfolk Broads Forums.


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So very true. An information product. Forums are great sources of knowledge, a library ! I am sure we have all searched for an answer to a problem etc, the same with Twitter and FB. Information / knowledge is the product provided by people, more so with the use of #hastags / $cashtags of course a lot of the time we have to sift through the off topic / misinformation, but at the end of the day forums are a great source of useful info, hence as already mentioned 'views' are the key to seeing the true popularity of an online space.
I would not have bought a Chinese heater if it had not been for a post on here, yes people can read reviews on Google, Amazon, Ebay, Trustpilot etc. But a fairly high percentage of those are 'paid or gifted for' Reading about an actual experience is so much better.


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Oh absolutely.
The only social media I use is Twitter and you can see more hashtags than any actual message.
As far as reviews go, I guess you have to avoid ones that have any affiliate link which can be impossible. I sometimes add a link myself especially if it is an Amazon one.
I'll often search for a review on a power tool or even software and all I get is a titles list pulled out of the air which all ultimately lead to a product affiliate link.
I stand by those diesel heaters to this day and I am tempted to invest in the portable one next.
After using a 8kw one for over a year and really putting in it through its paces, I can add some updates.
Firstly, I should have changed the fuel pipe straight away as it fails BSS without any markings on it and it doesn't last long.

Secondly, the fuel pump rubber holder needed replacing after a year but to be fair...that little bigger goes at it like a jack hammer.
And the supplied ducting for heat outflow and air intake have the longevity of tissue paper.

However, the bit that matters is the diesel heater and that little baby is still pumping out heat like a furnace.

I knew with drastic electricity price increases and Xmas coming, the diesel heaters would start going up again in price but they are worth it.

Hard to imagine people used to pay 2/3 grand for one not so long ago.

In fact, they are so cheap, most people by two at a time.


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Twitter certainly is hashtag central. But useful once the rubbish etc has been filtered out.

As for the affiliate links, I think they are fine if the accompanying text is a unique and honest review of a product. Its the thrown together Wordpress and Google blogs that are just basically a copy and paste of a manufacturers description that are the problem, not helped by the fact search engines seem to feed on them.

Hell yes, those diesel heaters are blinding. I got a 5kw one, works perfectly, have one outlet into the cockpit too keeps the habitent really warm. Only things I have changed was the exhaust pipe / silencer and jubilee clips ((before use) So thanks for the update, have taken note of all that.
And yes under 100.00 worth its weight.

Yes, really at the end of the day does just the same as a Webasto, but in such an affordable way that you can carry another as a spare. :D


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